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	<title>mama’s sewing circus &#187; good times</title>
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		<title>news from the yard</title>
		<link>http://mamasewingcircus.com/2010/09/13/news-from-the-yard/</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will: &#8220;Mom, some kids at school were making fun of you&#8221; Mom: &#8220;Oh yeah? How so?&#8221; Will: &#8220;They said, &#8216;Yo mama&#8217;s so fat she doesn&#8217;t even fit in the universe&#8217;&#8221; The correct response was probably not, &#8220;Well didja punch them?&#8221;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will: &#8220;Mom, some kids at school were making fun of you&#8221;<br />
Mom: &#8220;Oh yeah? How so?&#8221;<br />
Will: &#8220;They said, &#8216;Yo mama&#8217;s so fat she doesn&#8217;t even fit in the universe&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>The correct response was probably not, &#8220;Well didja punch them?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>I&#8217;m number 2!</title>
		<link>http://mamasewingcircus.com/2010/09/12/im-number-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I played on a co-ed soccer team from 1st grade until 5th grade, and though I could identify the three best players on the team, the classification stopped there. The rest of us were just on the team. Whether this was a gender thing, result of my personality (apparently *everyone* but me knows girl politics [...]]]></description>
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<p>I played on a co-ed soccer team from 1st grade until 5th grade, and though I could identify the three best players on the team, the classification stopped there. The rest of us were just on the team. Whether this was a gender thing, result of my personality (apparently *everyone* but me knows girl politics start in pre-school &#8211; OMG &#8220;heathers&#8221; wasn&#8217;t just a movie?), or related to the fact that on that co-ed team, &#8220;co-ed&#8221; never included more than 2 girls making the comparison like apples to bananas, I just never felt the need to calculate my place in the pecking order. This left me utterly unprepared for the first week of soccer angst that befell Will. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written about how soccer wasn&#8217;t high on his list of activities for the fall, but yeah, I signed him up anyway. Soccer is our insurance against depression, social angst, and lack of clarity. Probably more important than the fact that soccer offers Will an athletic outlet to burn through that boy energy, it also does wonders for his social life. Nothing bonds kids to each other like adversity, and sports teams made up mostly of classmates have one of the higher adversity per minute ratios of the legal options. No one survives a season without having the air knocked out of him with a rogue ball. Walk that off and go back to play? You gain the instant respect of your teammates. 90 minutes of ball-play on an unlighted pitch on a frigid autumn night tests anyone&#8217;s constitution. When they win, they win together. When they lose, they lose together. Such is soccer. So when Will sounded anxious about his first practice, trying to talk me out of taking him, I was nervous. What if he is &#8220;bookish&#8221;? Maybe boys worry about the pecking order in 1st grade? Maybe soccer was better on paper.</p>
<p>I did as any good parent does and spent the 15 minute drive to the field talking through Will&#8217;s fears. No, that kindergartener who is the best player of the k-3s would not be on his team. No, he would not be thrown onto the field into a kick-off against other kids. This would be practice where they&#8217;d dribble through cones, practice running and passing. He&#8217;d learn how to play soccer. </p>
<p>I threw him out onto the field and crossed my fingers.</p>
<p>Sure enough, 90 minutes later he ran off the pitch beaming from ear to ear going on and on about how much fun that practice had been. The following week the report changed to, &#8220;Mom! I&#8217;m the second best player after only two practices!&#8221; Oh, really! It turns out, he just felt he was. He had kicked the ball up into the air over the edge of the field and he and 4 other kids stood around contemplating how to retrieve it until one was coached to just climb down after it. In Will&#8217;s book, that was professional soccer, immediately catapulting him to 2nd in the pecking order. And hey, if he feels like #2, I&#8217;m going to let him be #2 until he realizes otherwise. </p>
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		<title>the house of infectious diseases</title>
		<link>http://mamasewingcircus.com/2010/08/31/the-house-of-infectious-diseases/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[School is back in session and we&#8217;re running ahead of schedule in our tour of childhood infectious diseases having missed the first half of Will&#8217;s first week due to viral pink eye in both eyes (and one of mine). I apparently also got the knock-you-dead-with-aches respiratory virus to go with it which he somehow missed. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>School is back in session and we&#8217;re running ahead of schedule in our tour of childhood infectious diseases having missed the first half of Will&#8217;s first week due to viral pink eye in both eyes (and one of mine). I apparently also got the knock-you-dead-with-aches respiratory virus to go with it which he somehow missed. Feeling left out, Sylvie brought us all head lice, and so we spent our evening last night de-lousing and nit-picking. Whee!</p>
<p>All of this excitement has me making preparations for my end because at this rate, I don&#8217;t have long. When I die, <a href="http://www.andvinyly.com/" target=new>make me into a record, here.</a></p>
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		<title>my six year old son</title>
		<link>http://mamasewingcircus.com/2010/08/19/my-six-year-old-son/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 04:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in this order, wants to sign up for yoga classes, then guitar, then swimming and if he has time left over in his schedule maybe soccer. I can&#8217;t figure out if he&#8217;s already realized girls take yoga or if he really is still too cool to care what the other kids think. Either way, I&#8217;m [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in this order, wants to sign up for yoga classes, then guitar, then swimming and if he has time left over in his schedule maybe soccer.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t figure out if he&#8217;s already realized girls take yoga or if he really is still too cool to care what the other kids think. Either way, I&#8217;m quite amused.</p>
<p>An entirely different note, Justin Timberlake would just die if he saw this:<br />
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		<title>you are blonde to meeeee!</title>
		<link>http://mamasewingcircus.com/2010/07/11/you-are-blonde-to-meeeee/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;d wish you a Happy Fourth of July, but we&#8217;re closer to Bastille day. So, let them eat cake then off with their heads! In recognition of the independence of our country, we spent Independence weekend in Colorado Springs at the Broadmoor. (The Bro More to those in the know) Lovely hotel from the outside. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d wish you a Happy Fourth of July, but we&#8217;re closer to Bastille day. So, let them eat cake then off with their heads! </p>
<p>In recognition of the independence of our country, we spent Independence weekend in Colorado Springs at the <a href="http://www.broadmoor.com/" target=new>Broadmoor</a>. (The Bro More to those in  the know)<br />
<img src="http://mamasewingcircus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_0175-300x224.jpg" alt="IMG_0175" title="IMG_0175" width="300" height="224" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1773" /></p>
<p>Lovely hotel from the outside. The same characterless 5 star generic hotel room on the inside that I&#8217;ve stayed in around the world. Yawn. We&#8217;ll be camping or lodging in Manitou Springs our next visit.</p>
<p>We made the kids suffer through the 3 hours of ascent to and descent from Pikes Peak on the <a href="http://www.cograilway.com/" target=new>cog railway</a>. The scenery was breathtaking. The train was a marvel of engineering, using a cog wheel to control the direct (straight up and down!) ascent and descent. And standing at the peak felt like standing on the top of the world. All of this lost on the kids, of course.<br />
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<p><img src="http://mamasewingcircus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/DSC_8956-300x199.jpg" alt="DSC_8956" title="DSC_8956" width="300" height="199" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1779" /></p>
<p><img src="http://mamasewingcircus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/DSC_8948-300x199.jpg" alt="DSC_8948" title="DSC_8948" width="300" height="199" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1777" /></p>
<p>We visited the giraffes at the <a href="http://www.cmzoo.org/" target=new>Cheyenne Mountain Zoo</a>.<br />
<img src="http://mamasewingcircus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1479-225x300.jpg" alt="IMG_1479" title="IMG_1479" width="225" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1780" /></p>
<p><img src="http://mamasewingcircus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1505-300x225.jpg" alt="IMG_1505" title="IMG_1505" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1781" /></p>
<p>Everyone had a dangerous looking photo taken at Garden of the Gods.<br />
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<p><img src="http://mamasewingcircus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1612-300x225.jpg" alt="IMG_1612" title="IMG_1612" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1783" /></p>
<p><img src="http://mamasewingcircus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1608-300x225.jpg" alt="IMG_1608" title="IMG_1608" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1782" /></p>
<p>There was plenty of swimming, obligatory fireworks, a thunderstorm (just as exciting to the Northern California crew as the fireworks), and good quality family time. </p>
<p>Etched into our brains after all that quality time with little Taylor Swift (aka Sylvie) is our daughter&#8217;s take on one of Taylor&#8217;s songs:<br />
You wear short skirts, I wear tshirts;<br />
You&#8217;re cheer captain hook, I&#8217;m on the bleachers;<br />
dreamin&#8217; bout the day when you wake up and find<br />
anda whatcha lookin for has been here whole time!</p>
<p>You are blonde to meeee!<br />
You are blonde to me!</p>
<p>Here she is filming her music video at the Garden of the Gods.<br />
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<p>Hope your 4th was wonderful, too.</p>
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		<title>northern california tide pools</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 03:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve been suffering through heatwave after heatwave out here in the northwest driving us to the ocean for relief from the sweltering 75 degree heat. A few weekends ago, this brought us to the Fitzgerald Marine Reserve, just north of Half Moon Bay in Moss Beach. At low tide, the tide pools are vast and [...]]]></description>
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We&#8217;ve been suffering through heatwave after heatwave out here in the northwest driving us to the ocean for relief from the sweltering 75 degree heat. A few weekends ago, this brought us to the <a href="http://www.fitzgeraldreserve.org/" target=new>Fitzgerald Marine Reserve,</a> just north of Half Moon Bay in Moss Beach.</p>
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At low tide, the tide pools are vast and it is worthwhile to get a map. We also invested in a laminated sheet of local life forms as the kids are old enough to enjoy checking off what they spot.</p>
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Although these guys were in our way &#8211; you aren&#8217;t allowed within 300 feet of one, and they just had to camp where all the star fish usually hang out &#8211; we were able to find quite a lot of great sea life.</p>
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<p>I learned a few things from the kids. First, Sea Sacs, that bubble-like kelp is fun to squeeze. And, if you stick your finger into a closed sea anemone, it will suck your finger in. If you jab your solid 3-year-old finger into one, it will squirt water out at you. This is great fun for a 3-year-old.<br />
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<p>After the tide pools, we headed to a frolic-friendly beach.<br />
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<p>Some of us went straight from beach into the bath.<br />
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		<title>well *that* was harder than it looked!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We ran the Napa marathon, today. I&#8217;ve been joking with Doug that when our friends go to Napa they get spa treatments and drink wine, and when we went, all we got were stinky tshirts and in my case a little soul in my stroll. We must be doing it wrong. So it went. We [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We ran the Napa marathon, today. I&#8217;ve been joking with Doug that when our friends go to Napa they get spa treatments and drink wine, and when we went, all we got were stinky tshirts and in my case a little soul in my stroll. We must be doing it wrong.</p>
<p>So it went. We set a PR at the half &#8211; which isn&#8217;t saying all that much at 1:50 &#8211; but we were aiming for under 9 minute miles and ended up zipping along a lot more comfortably and faster than anticipated. Comfortable all except my knee which until 13 was manageable, but definitely screaming like a petulant 3 year old who wants candy that she knows she isn&#8217;t going to get. At the 14 mile mark feed I was apparently looking pretty pained, and the knee had escalated it&#8217;s screaming to the over-tired 3 year old who really just isn&#8217;t going to stop until she falls asleep. The PT there pulled me over and stuffed me full of banana while she taped my knee. By this point, things weren&#8217;t going so well, and I was considering my options as the course wasn&#8217;t getting any flatter and though the tape was sticking, it wasn&#8217;t really cutting the pain. I took some advil and somehow ran/walked a few 9+ minute miles to 18 where I was doing more walking than running and sent Doug on his way. We met up at one more feed before parting ways. From 18 to 26.2, I just ran for the cameras. 4:26. The important thing is that I beat the guy in the funny shoes and the 70 year old guy with the bionic knee (no cartilage). I don&#8217;t know if I beat the guy with only one leg. It was close. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m icing and stretching and hoping to do the Marin Headlands half marathon on 4/3 and perhaps Marin Marathon on 4/25. Gotta keep trying until we get it right.</p>
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		<title>exactly when is innocence lost?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was home alone with the kids, today, so after a trip to REI/Target/a local thrift store to refresh the rain gear, a rain walk, some leaf races, a bath, and while sucking back hot chocolate, I gave the kids pedicures. Will insisted that I paint his nails a dusty rose color despite my insistence [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was home alone with the kids, today, so after a trip to REI/Target/a local thrift store to refresh the rain gear, a rain walk, some leaf races, a bath, and while sucking back hot chocolate, I gave the kids pedicures. Will insisted that I paint his nails a dusty rose color despite my insistence that he&#8217;d be teased by the big kids (second graders). Wouldn&#8217;t he prefer this silver? No, he doesn&#8217;t care what the older kids think. So, I proudly painted his toes and fingers. Later, after our trip to the grocery store, the kids ran to the dress ups chest to don their personas and I heard Will trying to convince Sylvie to let him wear the pink satin skirt so that *he* could wear it. &#8220;Sylvie, Angelina Ballerina doesn&#8217;t wear a skirt like that. Can I wear it? It goes better with my [pink feathered] shoes.&#8221; Yes, I love that gender appropriateness never enters into his mind, but I know this won&#8217;t last forever. So, I ask you, when is innocence lost?</p>
<p>Oh, and tonight, I remarked when checking Sylvie after a bathroom visit, &#8220;Oooh, Sylvie, that was big!&#8221; only to have Will run into the bathroom, &#8220;Let me see! How big was it mom? Show me with your hands! Was it this big? Bigger than this?&#8221; </p>
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		<title>hello, again</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So there has in fact been sewing, crafting, running, cooking and interesting things going on in our lives. BUT, I&#8217;m not feeling up to sharing, as there has also been viruses galore. Something that made me smile:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So there has in fact been sewing, crafting, running, cooking and interesting things going on in our lives. BUT, I&#8217;m not feeling up to sharing, as there has also been viruses galore.</p>
<p>Something that made me smile:</p>
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		<title>shh, all my secrets are belong to you</title>
		<link>http://mamasewingcircus.com/2009/12/14/shh-all-my-secrets-are-belong-to-you/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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